How do Pilots Build Time, and How Has That Changed Lately?

David Santo: And back in 90s, you almost had to go through FAPA to do all your interview preps and your resume preps and everybody signed up for FAPA, and he put out a brag sheet about hiring and all that stuff.

Of course when the US market died FAPA didn’t survive. And then there was another company that tried it called Air Inc. But Kit Darby’s always been in that kind of the, let’s help pilots find jobs and connect the dots. The difficulty that I think we have is in the 90s when I was building time, there were a lot more freight dog opportunities.

And I came up through the freight dog world, and that’s a term of affection, right? So I was flying for companies like Coletta, who were just thriving businesses. Lots of people flew for US Check, or Bank Air, or all these different organizations. Many of them are gone now.

A lot of those freight opportunities don’t exist anymore. The bank industry, which was a huge market, has gone to electronic clearing houses now, so you don’t need to fly the checks overnight.

Paula Williams:   Right. So there goes a traditional time-building opportunity!

David Santo: More and more companies, like in the 90s, the auto industry was doing just in-time inventories.

So, you needed a leer jet or a Falcon 20 or all these different airplanes out there flying parts around in the middle of the night to provide the just in time part that broke and they don’t have on their self. I think they’ve gotten smarter about how to do that and they’re using a lot more of the scheduled cargo operations and they’re doing counter to counter with the airlines.

So even though those opportunities are still there and I love those opportunities they’re great, there’s less of that available than there once was. So it’s either corporate flying, flight instructing, freight flying, charter-type flying or corporate. Or there’s kind of this small sector of doing things like pipeline patrol or

Paula Williams:   Banner towing.

David Santo: Banner towing.

Paula Williams:   Fish spotting.

David Santo: Glider towing.

Paula Williams:   [LAUGH] Yeah, that kind of thing, okay.

David Santo: Towing gliders, which I also did.

Paula Williams:   Yeah.

David Santo: So those jobs are still there. But there are not enough of them.

Paula Williams:   Um-hm.

David Santo: But you’re right. I think we have to share with young men and women that you’re not locked into being a flight instructor and my message is, if you don’t like teaching please don’t do it.

Paula Williams:   [LAUGH]

David Santo: Because you’re not helping your fellow aviators who are now your students if you’re not trying to be the best flight instructor you can be.

Paula Williams:   Right.

David Santo: And there are just some people that just don’t have a knack for it, they don’t have the patience for it whatever it is, I’m not faulting them, I’m not knocking them in any way.

In fact I’m encouraging them to say don’t get pigeon holed into being a flight instructor if you don’t feel that that’s something that you can really do very well, cuz it’s not fair to the students.

Paula Williams:   Right, right. Good point, I like that. Okay, yeah we’ll see what of that we can work into that flight schedule pro article and then that also might be an article that we can use as well in terms of the overseas opportunity for US people.

And ours can be shorter and less, doesn’t need to include all of those other opportunities. So great, that’s one.

David Santo: And I think you could grab some examples of the ads, right? You’re getting those aviation CD, you can grab, here’s a recent ad for first officers, there’s a bunch of them.

Paula Williams:   Yeah.

David Santo: And I think the proof’s in the pudding.

Paula Williams:   Yeah. They wouldn’t be spending the money on those if they weren’t real jobs, and if they weren’t actually getting paid for placing people, so.

David Santo: They’re businesses, they don’t do nothing for free.

Paula Williams:   Yeah, that’s for sure.